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M4 Relief Road

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westy

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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostFri Jul 18, 2014 12:52 am

Shouldn't money that is borrowed by wag be evenly spent across wales or spent in places around wales that haven't benefitted from devolution ?

Yet all the borrowed money is being spent on one project in south east wales.

Welsh people voted for devolution for wales they didn't vote to create a cardiff/south east wales bubble.

Why doesn't wag spend money or deliver big projects outside south east wales ?
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostFri Jul 18, 2014 1:11 am

Do you think that making it easier for people to access Wales from England DOESN'T benefit areas beyond South East Wales?

Jantra

Re: M4 Relief Road

PostFri Jul 18, 2014 8:11 am

Jeremy wrote:There is still a long way to go with this but Edwina made a firm decision, she must rapidly becoming Jantras favourite politician :mrgreen:



credit where credit is due - all I can say is that she must read this forum and have listened to what I've been writing all these years :mrgreen:

seriously, this, central investment, central square, callaghan square, the PDR extension and the GWML electrification all point towards some serious investment into South Wales by a good mix of Westminster, the Senedd and the private sector. The timescale for all of this to come to fruition must be 10 years but lets not forget that St Davids took that long from the drawing board and by and large we're all happy with that.

So yes, the Senedd/Welsh Labour have made and continue to make some good decisions of late.
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostFri Jul 18, 2014 9:46 am

westy wrote:Shouldn't money that is borrowed by wag be evenly spent across wales or spent in places around wales that haven't benefitted from devolution ?

Yet all the borrowed money is being spent on one project in south east wales.

Welsh people voted for devolution for wales they didn't vote to create a cardiff/south east wales bubble.

Why doesn't wag spend money or deliver big projects outside south east wales ?


Newport is a bottleneck and the problems are affecting the whole of South Wales at least a few times a month because of the Brynglas tunnels but also because the internal roads in Newport are so shit the M4 is used as a bypass to get from one end of the city to another. There's no extra junctions in this new road for people to get on and off at various places in Newport. What it's going to do is allow a smoother ride between everywhere west of Newport and everywhere east of Newport.

So the west of Wales benefits as much as everyone else.

Jantra

Re: M4 Relief Road

PostFri Jul 18, 2014 9:52 am

what Kyle said is it in a nutshell. The existing M4 will become the route to use if you need to stop off in Zooport whereas the southern route will be the M4 proper that bypasses...it will split the traffic into local and non local which can only be a good thing.
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostTue Jul 22, 2014 9:02 am

Looks like Spam, Egg & Chips to me!
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostTue Jul 22, 2014 5:38 pm

Neil wrote:Looks like Spam, Egg & Chips to me!


Yep, agreed. I reported it last night but looks like it hasn't been seen by Paul yet
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostThu Jul 24, 2014 1:56 pm

MrJamesBrown wrote:
Welshlad86 wrote:There will definitely be junctions!


Only at the start and finish it seems. I think the point is to completely bypass Newport to remove the failings of the existing M4 where it is used for long distance travel and also for short distance travel around Newport. Creating a ringroad with junctions on the Black route will just make this issue worse


There will definitely junctions! none are confirmed yet (I think) but to think they would build a new motorway to the south of Newport with out providing access to some of the old industrial areas ripe for development is quite loopy!
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Re: M4 Relief Road

PostThu Mar 26, 2015 8:56 am

Three firms awarded M4 relief road contract by Welsh government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-32060820
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