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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostTue Nov 21, 2017 6:49 pm

bye the way bristol is more hilly which makes the sky line look lower i think each city has some thing to offer
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostTue Nov 21, 2017 6:59 pm

URBANO wrote:All of which is nice, but does nothing to excuse you from simply making things up. I'm still waiting for you admission that your assertion that "Bristol has turned its back on high-rise" was factualy wrong.

No. I'm right. You're wrong. Go there . And read this http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/busin ... rfed-18432


Oh mate give it a rest, will you? You could have contributed nicely, like Mr Blue Sky.

And no, you're wrong. Here's one of many sources: https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/so ... es-forward

Skip to paragraph nine: Speaking earlier this month, Change Real Estate director Ron Persaud said: "Having listened carefully to the aspirations of mayor Rees to implement a new policy for Bristol to 'build up', to see attractive, taller and ambitious buildings within the city, we have been working very closely with Bristol City Council to respond positively to this change."

This tower has received backing from the planning committee (which I saw in person) along with several other taller buildings. Although Bristol is a bit more cautious about high-rise buildings, BCC has finally accepted that something needs to be done to address issues in the city.

Yes, Bristol is lagging behind with construction, but your statement about the city "turning its back on tall buildings" is utter drivel. Especially considering the fact that you provided no evidence apart from an article which in essence, tells us "Bristol hasn't got as many tall buildings as other cities". Well done with that, not a difficult observation to make, seeing as I live in Bishopston.

Now, have you ever considered that Bristol has less tall buildings because the policies regarding the construction of tall buildings in Bristol have only just been regarded as dated, and new policies have only started being recommended in late 2016?

Here's another one which is proposed - awaiting a decision soon. Again, it's taller than anything in Cardiff currently. Now, I'm not comparing the two cities - I'm simply giving some context. These developments have started popping up since the council have finally come to realise that the city is running out of space rapidly. The city will never reach its 20,000 housing target if they don't increase the density of the developments in the Key Sites.

Source: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/brist ... rey-337318

TL;DR. Bristol, in the past year, has seen a change in its height of developments, pushed by the mayor. It's not just doing it for the sake of having taller buildings, there are motives why Bristol is building up - mainly because the city is running out of space.

Now please stop throwing your toys out of your pram. I can see the point you're trying to make about Edinburgh, but your points about Bristol have inaccuracies.
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostTue Nov 21, 2017 7:02 pm

So prior to 2016, bristol turned its back on tall developments but since then has had a change of heart (but nothing yet has been built under this new policy)
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostTue Nov 21, 2017 7:27 pm

Jantra wrote:So prior to 2016, bristol turned its back on tall developments but since then has had a change of heart (but nothing yet has been built under this new policy)


:lol:

To put it simply, Bristol has always had an 'unofficial height limit', where developments which were about as tall as St. Mary Redcliffe (which is a beautiful Church - definitely worth a visit) and above that height, would get declined pretty much automatically.

Since 2016 new policies have been proposed to support high-quality tall buildings, supported by the mayor and cabinet members.

Since this change we've seen 3 'tall' buildings proposed in one year, the most in Bristol's history.
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostTue Nov 21, 2017 11:28 pm

All of which adds up to Urbano being wrong and making stuff up, which was the point I was trying to make too many posts ago.

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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 11:19 am

moyceyyy wrote:
URBANO wrote:All of which is nice, but does nothing to excuse you from simply making things up. I'm still waiting for you admission that your assertion that "Bristol has turned its back on high-rise" was factualy wrong.

No. I'm right. You're wrong. Go there . And read this http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/busin ... rfed-18432


"Oh mate give it a rest, will you? You could have contributed nicely, like Mr Blue Sky".




Oh mate. Do you want me to say you're wrong in a more roundabout (“nice”)way? Happy to oblige.

I do not want to get into personal arguments here ( which is not to say I shy away from strongly held personal views) . I said that Bristol has turned its back on high rise. I will leave it to others to decide if that is consistent with Jantra's accurate and marvellously succinct summary of the actual position in Bristol, i.e.....

“So prior to 2016, Bristol turned its back on tall developments but since then has had a change of heart (but nothing yet has been built under this new policy)
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 1:49 pm

This thread is getting boring now. Can we have a separate one for Cardiff/Bristol comparison arguments and leave this one for the original subject?
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 2:36 pm

Shminky Binky wrote:This thread is getting boring now. Can we have a separate one for Cardiff/Bristol comparison arguments and leave this one for the original subject?


Well BINKY to the rescue!!
- If anyone wishes to continue the fascinating topic of Cardiff/Bristol comparison then please start a new thread and compare til your hearts content! and leave others to comment on Cardiff developments in dedicated threads that may or may not include occasional reference to building heights and progress!
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 2:43 pm

Ash wrote:All of which adds up to Urbano being wrong and making stuff up, which was the point I was trying to make too many posts ago.

It actually supports URBANO's position. Pre 2016 the council turned its back on height, there is a new policy, but until that policy bears fruit, it's all candyfloss
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Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 2:46 pm

Jantra wrote:
Ash wrote:All of which adds up to Urbano being wrong and making stuff up, which was the point I was trying to make too many posts ago.

It actually supports URBANO's position. Pre 2016 the council turned its back on height, there is a new policy, but until that policy bears fruit, it's all candyfloss



NO - seriously, new thread please!!
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