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New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:26 pm
by lees
Have a look at this proposed tower of glass, looking to be built on the small patch of ground opposite the golden cross in Town

Here is the website:

http://socratesarchitects.com/portfolio ... n-240x360/


http://socratesarchitects.com/wp-conten ... 40x360.jpg

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:28 am
by RandomComment
Its one of Nick's flights of fantasy.. there is no serious proposal from a developer. Its just an architects concept drawing. Theres space for something there but a resi tower wouldn't make financial sense - its too small a site I think so you couldn't get enough apartments per floor to make it viable.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:38 am
by Cardiff
The scale of the rendering doesn't match anyway, but there is space for an apartment development there if you take the land next to it as well, which only seems to be a large walkway from Callaghan square not often used and a bit intimidating.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:02 pm
by Zach
Golden Towers has passed stage one of planning. :o

Image

Not too many stages left now.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:44 pm
by Amoore
There are many rumours circulating that the Golden Cross is soon to meet the same destiny as The Vulcan at St Fagans.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:05 pm
by Karl
I think the Golden Cross is Grade 2 listed. It was also subject to an intense campaign to save it when that area was redeveloped in the late 80's/early 90's when the Marriot was built. I doubt very much it would be removed. It would prove extremely controversial. Plus St Fagans are unlikley to want another Cardiff pub having just taken receipt of the Vulcan.

I wonder what would go there anyway? It's between the service yard and the car park of the Marriot and it's footprint is similar to the parcel of land across the road (the subject of this thread) which has remained fallow for at least 15 years.

I suppose it also raises wider questions about Custom House Street/Bute Terrace. It's one of the natural thoroughfares to and from the station but in reality it's a bit of a lost opportunity. There is very little street level activity apart from the Golden Cross, Porters and maybe the Maldron. The buildings on the south side are ok by and large but on the north side there is the arse end of the Marriot, CIA, John Lewis and Jury's. Potentially it could be one of the main city centre gateways particularly if Adam Street continues to be developed to the same quality displayed in the Atrium development but at the moment it's something and nothing.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:05 am
by Neil
After what happened to the Vulcan, I'd chain myself to the building if they try and remove the Golden Cross! Sometimes it's as if they want it to appear that Cardiff never existed before 1999.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:03 pm
by Cardiff
Don't count on the Marriott going anywhere, recently bought out by a large consortium, rooms to be refurbished end of the year and their function suite extended over the small green space next to John Lewis car park entrance.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:12 pm
by redragon
I wish they'd rebuild or reclad or something! It's very Toys R Us/old library! That area has developed considerably since that place was built. It's got a real out of town/Swindon vibe about it.

Re: New tower of glass opposit the golden cross

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:42 am
by Karl
I agree, it wouldn't look out of place towering over a roundabout in Slough. It's got a really awkward relationship to Mill Lane, Custom House Street and Hayes Bridge Rd. That's quite a feat for one building - to look shit from every angle. The only part of it that actually relates to it's surroundings is the car park that was built as part of the SD2 development. Maybe in 20 years time it will be seen as a classic of late 20th century architecture and we will breathe a sigh of relief that it escaped the wrecking ball. I very much doubt that.

It's probably a reflection of where Cardiff was in the 80's/early 90's. I think Holiday Inn had to be paid by the Welsh Office/WDA to build here. They had a massive surface car park remember - where the library is now. The barn like Toys R Us and the ice rink were welcomed with open arms back then. It was like a little piece of mid west America in the middle of a British city centre.