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Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:47 pm
by Blade_Runner83
Long time spectator first time poster.

The application for the Charles Street mixed use development has been made including a substantial tower.

http://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-a ... APR_114754

Hopefully this pace of new developments will continue!

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:52 pm
by Kyle
Welcome to the forum !

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:53 pm
by Jantra
very nice. will look good if the build is good quality - will compliment admiral somewhat

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:13 pm
by MattW
That looks huge, taller than the Admiral even. Will be nice and windy down on street level with that enclosed space. The building looks good quality though, hopefully will be nice when finished.

The number of student developments is relentless, only thing I wonder is with all these prime brownfield sites being taken up - what about affordable city centre living for the rest of us?

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:27 pm
by Blade_Runner83
Based on the D&A Statement it looks to be circa 30m taller than Admiral.

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:32 pm
by Karl
MattW wrote:That looks huge, taller than the Admiral even. Will be nice and windy down on street level with that enclosed space. The building looks good quality though, hopefully will be nice when finished.

The number of student developments is relentless, only thing I wonder is with all these prime brownfield sites being taken up - what about affordable city centre living for the rest of us?


JR Smart have put in a planning app for residential in Herbert Street and of course there are thousands of homes planned for Dumballs Rd. Whether or not these developments will be 'affordable' I don't know.

I wonder if Central Square and the Tramshed will see Riverside and Grangetwown become more popular. From Tudor Street to SD2 is a brisk 5 minute walk if you nip through the arcades. I'm always surprised at how down at heel that area seems when there is some decent period housing right on the city centre doorstep.

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:36 pm
by Cen
The detail they have gone into in the materials sections for both this tower and the Hope Street tower shows that they are being very conscious of build quality. I don't think we need to worry about the architects, as One Central Square has turned out brilliantly. Hopefully Watkin Jones themselves have the courage to pump the necessary funds into both!

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:58 pm
by Cen
According to the D&A Statement, this is going to be 100m tall.

Edit: I think it's actually 90.5m + 9.4m pavement height above sea level. The documents aren't consistent with this.

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:32 pm
by LocalLurker
Does this cover the empty plot between the Chapel and Charles Street opposite Rapport?

I'm starting to lose track of the planning proposals and that's a good thing, so 'tower' wise, we could possibly have:

This on Bridge Street (100m)
Custom House Street (132m)
Wood Street as part of Capital Square (89m)
John Street

Also for reference, is Herbert Street a separate development from John Street or another name for it? :oops:

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:28 pm
by Ash
Karl wrote: I wonder if Central Square and the Tramshed will see Riverside and Grangetwown become more popular. From Tudor Street to SD2 is a brisk 5 minute walk if you nip through the arcades. I'm always surprised at how down at heel that area seems when there is some decent period housing right on the city centre doorstep.


The western part of Grangetown seems to be gentrifying quite quickly - Riverside and eastern Grangetown less so. I think the (undeserved) poor reputation of some of the local English Medium schools may be an issue for people considering the area. Hopefully the council's proposed reorganisation will address the issue.