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Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:39 pm
by Owen
Ash wrote:As has happened with at least one other student block, Watkin Jones have applied for temporary permission to house non-students for the first year of operation. The reason given is as follows.

The application seeks the temporary change of use of application ref 15/03097/MJR from solely student accommodation to allow for the use of both students and non-students. The development is due to complete 31 August 2018. With University courses commencing September 2018 this does not allow for adequate time to market or agree
tenancies for all of the units. The Groups experience in developing and managing student accommodation shows
that students prefer to see the accommodation before agreeing a tenancy. In this instance, there is a risk that the accommodation may not be fully occupied, particularly when students can start to book accommodation from May 2018.


All of which may well be true - but it does suggest that there isn't a huge unmet demand out there for this form of student accomodation. Besides which, this isn't a case of the build timetable slipping. It was always intended to be completed in August.


My concern for them is that they won't have it finished by the end of August. They've still got so much to do and I wonder if this temporary change of use application is in anticipation of that. But agree with you and other comments - I think the student accommodation rush is coming to an end. Happy for some bland designs not to go forward but I would still love to see the planned development next to the Mercure on Newport road go ahead - student accommodation or otherwise. It is such a good quality design

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:01 am
by Kyle
I haven't read anywhere about Howells Solicitors moving from Hallinans House yet, so I guess if that hit the media it would be an indication of maybe those lovely towers actually being built. I haven't read anything about it since last autumn when it was approved.

I hadn't taken in the fact that it's Howells themselves working on it, so maybe they haven't found a student housing operator to take it on yet.

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/wales/plans-in-for-32-storey-student-development

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:38 pm
by Cardiff

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:14 am
by Kyle
Cardiff wrote:Image20180320_111438 by Cardiff123 Cardiff123, on Flickr


It looks really nice from that view

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:03 pm
by Amoore
Topping Out ceremony for this taking place on Wednesday 25th April.

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:40 pm
by RandomComment
There is a proposal for four apartments on the upper floors of the A1/A3 units fronting Charles Street:

https://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=_CARDIFF_DCAPR_123350

I think in the inial drawings these were shown as being internally gutted, with mezzanines and high ceilings for the A3 use. Restaurant A3 demand has fallen off a cliff in the last 18 months or so though - and I think that explains these changes.

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:00 pm
by elgdav
Is AlwaysBeBlue still saying these two new student towers are only going to be 60 meters?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... t-14576894

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:52 pm
by AlwaysBeBlue
Nope

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:40 pm
by Ash
AlwaysBeBlue wrote:Nope


Internet poster admits he may have been wrong! :o

Re: Charles Street Mixed Use Development with Tower

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:35 am
by paul cardiffwalesmap
Tower Crane coming down today at Bridge St!

and a fine job it's done on this tower! now Cardiff's tallest and in my opinion a great asset to our skyline - just gutted it's taller brother is in no mans land!? :roll:

Image

Q: So where will the next significant tower crane pop up?...... Park Place - Transport Exchange Central Sq - Customhouse St - Curran Road - John St Call Sq. ????

or none of the above :shock: