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Train routes could be split into English and Welsh services

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:02 am
by dave
A new franchise deal could see British train routes being split into Welsh and English services, it has been claimed.


Management of the Wales and Border train franchise is due to be devolved before the current Arriva Trains deal ends in 2018, by the UK government.

At present, Arriva Trains Wales is paid a subsidy of approximately £180m every year under a 15 year deal with the Welsh Government.

However, First Minister Carwyn Jones has said that the Department for Transport wants to cut all routes beginning and ending in England from the franchise before it is managed by Welsh ministers.

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The change could see the end of several routes that connect South Wales and places such as Chepstow, Gloucester, Shrewsbury, Crewe and Manchester.

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Chairman of passenger group Railfuture Wales John Rogers said that it did not make sense to to "amputate the bits that cross into England".

He told the Daily Post: "The Carmarthen-Manchester, the Aberystwyth- Birmingham etc. are well established and logical rail routes, and there is no economic or practical logic in forcing a change of trains at, say, Chester, Shrewsbury or perhaps Abergavenny. In fact, it would be nonsense."

A spokesman for the Welsh Government spokesperson said that negotiations were ongoing over devolving the franchise with the Department for transport, and that a public consulation on the matter has been launched.

He said: "We believe it is essential that the franchise map does not significantly change so that links between Wales and England can be protected together with the financial sustainability of the network as a whole."

A spokesperson for the Department of Transport also added that no decisions would be made without taking into account local view



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Re: Train routes could be split into English and Welsh servi

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:19 pm
by Frank
I think I've mentioned this before but I don't really get the idea of devolving responsibility for routes that run cross border. Personally I'm not even sure I'd allow transport for London to run the commuter lines in the south east.

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Re: Train routes could be split into English and Welsh servi

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:19 pm
by cardiffian
one of the most stupid ideas I've ever heard of

Re: Train routes could be split into English and Welsh servi

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 4:03 pm
by jones4891
It's from 4 years ago. Just some random bot has dredged it up from the past by the looks of it.