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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostMon Jul 10, 2017 12:37 pm

Kyle wrote:The cranes are going up on Wednesday, one at the back and one towards the left as you are looking at the site from the pavement.


Well done Kyle - that's great news! But I'm actually gutted coz I'm off on hols tomorrow for two weeks!! oh dear how sad is that I'm going to Florida and I'm gutted to be missing the construction of two tower cranes at cap qtr!!! I got it bad! :lol:

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Anyway in my absence I'm really hoping that crane photos are posted here, so I can enjoy them whilst drinking my budweiser poolside!! oh and some updates on Bridge Street would be good! etc... etc. ;)
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostMon Jul 10, 2017 3:44 pm

paul cardiffwalesmap wrote: so I can enjoy them whilst drinking my budweiser poolside!!


honestly, don't do it.
I'd rather be no one than someone with no one.
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostWed Jul 12, 2017 12:29 pm

Crane nearer the water is on her way up. Like my second born she is quite chunky & yellow. I wld post a photo but don't know how - of the crane that is.
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostThu Jul 13, 2017 10:36 am

Quite sizable already

https://m.imgur.com/a/SPrZS
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostThu Jul 13, 2017 6:51 pm

Looking at how quickly some of the cities in the UK are growing, I'm really surprised by how little attention is being paid to Cardiff.

I visited Cambridge (supposedly the most prosperous city in the UK - outside London) last month - had a good look, and it doesnt seem anywhere on the same scale as Cardiff.

Just look at all those cranes!
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostThu Jul 13, 2017 8:04 pm

moyceyyy wrote:I visited Cambridge (supposedly the most prosperous city in the UK - outside London) last month - had a good look, and it doesnt seem anywhere on the same scale as Cardiff.

Just look at all those cranes!


I'm in Cambridge quite often, so I see the progress that's being made over there. The area around the train station has been completely transformed in recent years, not to mention all the science buildings and Addenbrookes site. The Cambridge West site is quite big too. A lot of housing is also being proposed in the area, around Cambridge West and the airport. These links give you some idea on a couple of the projects that the University is investing in:
http://www.westcambridge.co.uk/
http://www.nwcambridge.co.uk/

Cambridge is benefitting signficantly from a number of things. First, all the investment in the University's facilities, which never really stops. Then there's the spin-off businesses which comes out of the University's research programmes, particularly in computers, pharmaceuticals and bioengineering. That pumps money back into the University and also attracts businesses. Basically, what Cambridge (and Oxford with their Didcot site) are doing is what Cardiff University is trying to do with the compound-semi conductor stuff, only they're 20+ years behind.

The other thing that Cambridge benefits from is it's excellent transport links to London and its proximity to Stanstead, which is 30mins away on a direct train. Businesses are finally wising up to the fact that it's close to London (but still cheaper, only just) and has a regular turn-out of high-quality grads, many of whom want to stay.

One crucial thing to remember, is the population of Cambridge was approximately 123,000 in 2011, which included around 24,500 students! It's a quarter of the size of the city of Cardiff and it's not a capital city!

Crane counting is great, but it's not always the best indication as to how a city is really performing or its direction of travel. It's also not that exciting when the majority of our recent developments are student accomodation buildings! Or when the few new office developments involve established businesses simply relocating from other locations within the city.

Yes, there are a lot of exciting things planned for Cardiff, but at the moment a lot of it is still just talk! We need to start seeing some more action!
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostFri Jul 14, 2017 9:58 am

There is a lot in that. Just thinking about Cardiff and its developments.

Over the last two years some 50 stories of office space has either come on line or is being built. Over the next year to 18 months around 60/70 stories of student accommodation is definitely being built. Around 40/50 stories of residential accommodation is in planning or started.

Universities will be busy with Maindy Park (which shd he exceptional) & Cardiff Met in Callaghan Square coming forward. Along with USW extension & JOMECs move to Central Square this is good.
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostTue Jul 18, 2017 5:09 pm

Application submitted for discharge of various conditions:
http://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-a ... APR_120723

17/01718/MJR | DISCHARGE OF CONDITIONS 11 (MATERIALS), 12 (ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING), 13, (CYCLE PARKING) AND 27 (REFUSE) AND PARTIAL DISCHARGE OF CONDITION 23 (AGGREGATE) OF 16/03041/MJR | LAND AT HERBERT STREET, ATLANTIC WHARF, CARDIFF, CF10 4AY
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostTue Jul 18, 2017 9:53 pm

Peiriannydd wrote:Application submitted for discharge of various conditions:
http://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-a ... APR_120723

17/01718/MJR | DISCHARGE OF CONDITIONS 11 (MATERIALS), 12 (ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING), 13, (CYCLE PARKING) AND 27 (REFUSE) AND PARTIAL DISCHARGE OF CONDITION 23 (AGGREGATE) OF 16/03041/MJR | LAND AT HERBERT STREET, ATLANTIC WHARF, CARDIFF, CF10 4AY


Materials and architectural detailing... please dont let this be a bad build please please please. ;)

And what happens if this is declined?
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Re: Herbert Street - student accommodation

PostTue Jul 18, 2017 11:20 pm

[quote="moyceyyy"Materials and architectural detailing... please dont let this be a bad build please please please. ;)

And what happens if this is declined?[/quote]

Taste is subjective, but if it's declined then they can't build as they won't have planning consent. These are conditions of their planning consent that the developer is attempting to have discharged.
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