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How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSat May 27, 2017 10:41 pm

Peiriannydd wrote:If Corbyn wins, I might just leave this country. Maybe spend another 20 years overseas, becuase that's how long it'll take this country to go over his ideas of 1970's socialism.

Let's not forget this man's ideas of re-opening the pits in Wales. Yeah, that's about the extent of his imaganation for us.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/je ... ck-6213691
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... th-9866522
Anyone on here want to see their kids working down the pits?

Yes, he may have the courage of his convictions, but the man is stuck in the world of student politics, having never grown up and never having a real job!


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PostSun May 28, 2017 10:37 am

Corbyn would destroy this country with his silliness.

You cannot have an open door policy

You cannot give even more in aid abroad when people in the UK are using food banks

You cannot negotiate with Isis

You cannot get rid of our armed forces when the world is in the state it is

Corbyn would out put the final nail into the coffin of the UK
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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 11:07 am

If enough people vote Labour this is what we'll end up with.
Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 12:49 pm

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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 1:11 pm

AlwaysBeBlue wrote:Corbyn would destroy this country with his silliness.

You cannot have an open door policy

You cannot give even more in aid abroad when people in the UK are using food banks

You cannot negotiate with Isis

You cannot get rid of our armed forces when the world is in the state it is

Corbyn would out put the final nail into the coffin of the UK


I totally agree! I think many of his supporters are as diluded and naive as those who supported Trump, just for different reasons.

I jested earlier about leaving this country, but it was the fucking mess that these socialist idiots created the 1970s that prompted my family to head overseas when I was a young lad. I'm fortunate, in so far as that I have some highly-sort-after skills and more than 1 passport. I can leave if I want to! How many people can't leave and will be left in the economic chaos that Brexit and a Corbyn government would bring?

Regardless of that, I will never vote for a man who even hesitates (nevermind about refusing) to condemn the IRA. Irrespective of your views on a unified Ireland, how could anyone have sympathy for those who plant bombs near schools and hospitals? Not to mention the murder of unarmed police officers and soldiers. Corbyn is not fit to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 3:19 pm

I have some highly-sort-after skills and more than 1 passport.


ISIS or MI6 ?

PS Spelling ain't one of them :D
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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 3:34 pm

AlwaysBeBlue wrote:
You cannot give even more in aid abroad when people in the UK are using food banks



I won't comment on the election in general but I will take issue with this.

The UK is an affluent country. A country that could very easily prevent most users of food banks having to use them. (There will always be some that slip through any safety net though - unless we became much more authoritarian). That we don't is partly an active policy decision to tighten up the benefits system with increased waiting periods and sanctions. Food banks are a symptom of the hardship such policies can cause. Perhaps declines in the number of people inactive in the labour market is the 'benefit' of such a benefits policy. (And some would argue it is a good thing in itself to impose sanctions on those not looking hard enough for a job, say).

Anyway, the point is the UK is more than wealthy enough to provide further support to low income people in this country if it wanted to. It seems we choose not to.

We are also more than wealthy enough to contribute 70p of every £100 we earn as a country to tackling poverty and boosting opportunities in the poorest countries in the world. Is some of the aid money misspent? Undoubtedly. But its the most audited and evaluated money the UK government spends. It saves hundreds of thousands of lives. It means hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of children go to school, have safer drinking water, and are less likely to get sick from malaria. It helps farmers and small entrepreneurs access credit and insurance to grow their businesses. Done right, it helps build the capacity of developing country governments to administer their countries and grow their economies, and actually wean themselves off aid. And in the most fragile and conflict-prone states it can make a real difference not just to development but also stability.

To me theres something mean-spirited about begrudging small sums - 70p of every £100 we earn, or £1.90 of every £100 we pay in tax. But its more than that. I'd feel uncomfortable free-riding on other, more generous nations. I feel anger at those free-riding on us (the US, Australia, Japan, in particular). And I think fundamentally we'd be poorer and less safe. Its in our interests that developing countries develop, and in particular, that the number of very poor people, and unstable, conflict-prone regions declines.

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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 3:54 pm

Zach wrote:
I have some highly-sort-after skills and more than 1 passport.


ISIS or MI6 ?

PS Spelling ain't one of them :D


It's Liam Neeson
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Re: How will you Vote at the General Election on June 8th ?

PostSun May 28, 2017 4:11 pm

RandomComment wrote:
AlwaysBeBlue wrote:
You cannot give even more in aid abroad when people in the UK are using food banks



I won't comment on the election in general but I will take issue with this.

The UK is an affluent country. A country that could very easily prevent most users of food banks having to use them. (There will always be some that slip through any safety net though - unless we became much more authoritarian). That we don't is partly an active policy decision to tighten up the benefits system with increased waiting periods and sanctions. Food banks are a symptom of the hardship such policies can cause. Perhaps declines in the number of people inactive in the labour market is the 'benefit' of such a benefits policy. (And some would argue it is a good thing in itself to impose sanctions on those not looking hard enough for a job, say).

Anyway, the point is the UK is more than wealthy enough to provide further support to low income people in this country if it wanted to. It seems we choose not to.

We are also more than wealthy enough to contribute 70p of every £100 we earn as a country to tackling poverty and boosting opportunities in the poorest countries in the world. Is some of the aid money misspent? Undoubtedly. But its the most audited and evaluated money the UK government spends. It saves hundreds of thousands of lives. It means hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of children go to school, have safer drinking water, and are less likely to get sick from malaria. It helps farmers and small entrepreneurs access credit and insurance to grow their businesses. Done right, it helps build the capacity of developing country governments to administer their countries and grow their economies, and actually wean themselves off aid. And in the most fragile and conflict-prone states it can make a real difference not just to development but also stability.

To me theres something mean-spirited about begrudging small sums - 70p of every £100 we earn, or £1.90 of every £100 we pay in tax. But its more than that. I'd feel uncomfortable free-riding on other, more generous nations. I feel anger at those free-riding on us (the US, Australia, Japan, in particular). And I think fundamentally we'd be poorer and less safe. Its in our interests that developing countries develop, and in particular, that the number of very poor people, and unstable, conflict-prone regions declines.[/quote


Wait there... so you agree with us sending millions to India, who has a space program while there people live in the slums and also have a nuclear weapons programme ?
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