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Cardiff 15000 arena

if it's about Cardiff.. Sport, Entertainment, Transportation, Business, Development Projects, Leisure, Eating, Drinking, Nightlife, Shopping, Train Spotting! etc.. then we want it here!
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Re: Cardiff 15000 arena

PostWed Sep 05, 2018 6:59 pm

RandomComment wrote: However, where there are elected mayors, those mayors have executive power. London is the obvious example (Police, Transport, and strategic Development, Planning, Transport, Housing and Environmental issues). But it also includes the new metro Mayors (Greater Manchester, West Midlands, Merseyside, West-of-England - i.e. Bristol). And a few specific local authorities (e.g. Doncaster, Tower Hamlets).


Almost, but not quite! ;) Bristol actually has two elected executive Mayors, one Labour and one Conservative. It's the Labour one, the Mayor of Bristol, Marvin Rees who's blocked the Arena.

The other one, the Tory, is the Metro Mayor of what's usually referred to as Cuba - "The County that Used to Be Avon"!

It's just totally bonkers and results, as you say, from a mish mash of incoherent local government reforms. England should just have a uniform system of regional government which would solve a lot of consitutional difficulties. The problem is that, with the possible exeption of Yorkshire, the's little popular support for an extra tier of government.
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PostThu Sep 06, 2018 12:30 am

I think it's safe to say that the Bristol arena is never getting built. What a utter waste of money.

Great for us though, however.
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PostMon Oct 01, 2018 6:59 am

What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?
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Re: Cardiff 15000 arena

PostMon Oct 01, 2018 9:40 am

dave wrote:What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?


Nothing that has been made public, other than the council etc. going to Qatar to try and obtain funding from the investment fund there.

I would imagine negotiations are still on-going with the owners of the Red Dragon Centre, but also we've not heard a thing about what's going on with the council making up their mind if they are moving from Atlantic Wharf or not.
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PostMon Oct 01, 2018 12:08 pm

Kyle wrote:
dave wrote:What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?


Nothing that has been made public, other than the council etc. going to Qatar to try and obtain funding from the investment fund there.

I would imagine negotiations are still on-going with the owners of the Red Dragon Centre, but also we've not heard a thing about what's going on with the council making up their mind if they are moving from Atlantic Wharf or not.


Let's hope that things are going on behind the scenes - if we could get this done and established on the 'arena circuit' it would be a great bonus for the city. This year the Principality stadium has had maybe (I havent checked stats on this) a record number of seats sold for various sports/concerts, but I'm not sure how booked it is for 2019? With an arena, would we expect full houses 2 or 3 times monthly for a variety of acts? anyway over the whole year this would see a significant increase in visitor numbers to Cardiff.
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PostMon Oct 01, 2018 5:15 pm

Kyle wrote:
dave wrote:What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?


Nothing that has been made public, other than the council etc. going to Qatar to try and obtain funding from the investment fund there.

I would imagine negotiations are still on-going with the owners of the Red Dragon Centre, but also we've not heard a thing about what's going on with the council making up their mind if they are moving from Atlantic Wharf or not.


Huw Thomas' report to council this month discusses his trip to Qatar to seek investment for the arena. Also states a trip to Romania seeking investment for a project in the sports village - the indoor ski slope possibly?
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Re: Cardiff 15000 arena

PostMon Oct 01, 2018 9:55 pm

paul cardiffwalesmap wrote:
Kyle wrote:
dave wrote:What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?


Nothing that has been made public, other than the council etc. going to Qatar to try and obtain funding from the investment fund there.

I would imagine negotiations are still on-going with the owners of the Red Dragon Centre, but also we've not heard a thing about what's going on with the council making up their mind if they are moving from Atlantic Wharf or not.


Let's hope that things are going on behind the scenes - if we could get this done and established on the 'arena circuit' it would be a great bonus for the city. This year the Principality stadium has had maybe (I havent checked stats on this) a record number of seats sold for various sports/concerts, but I'm not sure how booked it is for 2019? With an arena, would we expect full houses 2 or 3 times monthly for a variety of acts? anyway over the whole year this would see a significant increase in visitor numbers to Cardiff.


It's definitely been the most profitable year for the WRU, they've come public with that. So much so the debt on the stadium is almost non-existent. You'd think the folks at Arms Park would be more interested in doing a deal?

The arena would bring in major acts which wants to perform here but just can't. Today Wales Online has an article claiming that Wales is an MMA hotbed and is crying out for a big UFC show, but there's nowhere to house it. That was coming from the CEO of Cage Warriors who just had a sell out show at the Wales Ice Arena. Just one small example of how this arena could give Cardiff the catalyst to strengthen its image and economy.

Hopefully there's some positive news to come from the delegation trip to Qatar. Do we know exactly when this report will be available?
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PostSat Oct 20, 2018 3:40 pm

Owen wrote:
Kyle wrote:
dave wrote:What is happening with thus new arena? they have chosen a site are they funding it now?


Nothing that has been made public, other than the council etc. going to Qatar to try and obtain funding from the investment fund there.

I would imagine negotiations are still on-going with the owners of the Red Dragon Centre, but also we've not heard a thing about what's going on with the council making up their mind if they are moving from Atlantic Wharf or not.


Huw Thomas' report to council this month discusses his trip to Qatar to seek investment for the arena. Also states a trip to Romania seeking investment for a project in the sports village - the indoor ski slope possibly?


Any notes from this?
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Re: Cardiff 15000 arena

PostSun Oct 21, 2018 3:47 pm

Lewisbeecham wrote:
Any notes from this?


Do you mean this?
http://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/document ... Leader.pdf
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Re: Cardiff 15000 arena

PostThu Nov 08, 2018 7:03 pm

Cardiff Council press release:

Development of the indoor arena takes another step forward

Cardiff's plans for a new 15,000 capacity indoor arena in the Bay will take a step forward this month if the Council's Cabinet grants permission for detailed design works to be progressed.

Once completed, the scheme will be brought back to Cabinet for a decision in March 2019, and a planning application for the development would be submitted by July 2019.

The report to Cabinet reveals that the existing Red Dragon Centre could be demolished to make way for the new indoor arena which would face Lloyd George Avenue and the Oval Basin. Before that happens a brand new Red Dragon Centre and retail site would be built alongside the arena to further enhance the leisure offer.

Cabinet Member for Investment and Development, Cllr Russell Goodway, said: "We want to re-energise Cardiff Bay boosting its profile as a leisure-based destination. This new development can help to reinvigorate the area, delivering new attractions for residents and visitors to enjoy."

The latest plans show how the arena site could be developed on a step-by-step basis.

In the first instance a new multi-storey car park would be built on the Red Dragon Centre overflow car park. This would free up the main Red Dragon Centre car park which would become the site of a new leisure and retail centre.

Once completed the existing tenants of the Red Dragon Centre would transfer across to the new development which would also contain opportunities for other businesses to secure a presence in the Bay. The existing Red Dragon Centre would then be demolished for work to begin on the new arena.

If Cabinet agree the report the Council will begin working in partnership with the owner of the Red Dragon Centre - British Airways Pension Fund - and their delivery partner Reef Group to transform the site into a state-of-the-art leisure and retail destination, preparing the way for the arena to be built.

Cllr Goodway continued: "There has been significant interest in this project from a variety of arena operators in the UK. It's clear there's a market. Live Nation, the current operator of the Motorpoint Arena and one of the world's leading event promoters has also approached the Council and it has confirmed in writing they would cease to operate the existing Motorpoint Arena if they were successful in securing the operator lease for the new facility.

"The additional footfall that the arena and new leisure and retail site will generate will also increase the demand for better transport links between the city centre and the bay. This should only help to drive the need for the new metro system and putting an arena in the Bay could also help speed up the completion of the Eastern Bay Link Road."

The decision to proceed will be made by Cabinet at its meeting on November 15th.



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