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Lewisbeecham

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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 7:30 am

Cen wrote:Presumably, there will be more than just 4 tram stops? Perhaps these are the bigger stations and there will be smaller stops in between? Maybe wishful thinking. :roll:


Hard to tell. The article mentions to South Wales Metro to be launched later today, so I presume that will feature more detail. It can't just be those 4 stations!
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 8:34 am

Highlights:

All trains replaced (95% of journeys on new trains by 2023)
Half of new trains built in Wales
65 % increase in service capacity
'Smart ticketing' with 'flexible fares' (whatever that means)
Every station deep cleaned this year
Electric/Battery/Diesel hybrids for Rhymni and VoG lines (Caerphilly tunnel not electrified)
Tram-Trains on Merthyr and Coryton lines, switching to battery power once they hit Cardiff streets.
The weirdest bit is the talk of only four tram stations in Cardiff, but I assume they'll also make use of the current rail stations?
Possible new station in Nantgarw as well
Gray and red Transport for Wales branding, not Keolis branding

More details released later in the day.
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 8:49 am

Assume the Gabalfa stop would be on the Merthyr line and the Crwys Rd stop on the Rhymney line?

The new trains are positive, and I don't want to second guess the full plans, but I hope this is Phase 1 of a continuous improvement plan. Otherwise what this amounts to is a couple of extra stops on the Valley Lines, new trains and moving the Bay station a few metres closer to the Millennium Centre....
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 9:21 am

By 2019
Refurbished trains bring extra capacity to the valley lines.
New services between Chester and Liverpool Lime Street.
Station deep clean and rebranding begins.

By 2020
Britain’s first hybrid-power trains radically improve passenger experience on North Wales and Borders lines.
Outdated Pacer trains are retired.

By 2021
Community Ambassadors are employed across the network to bring railway closer to communities.

By 2022
Pay-as-you-go ticketing is launched across Wales using barcodes and smartcards.
Free, seamless Wi-Fi is made available on stations and trains.
New trains introduced throughout the network, including Metro Vehicles on Aberdare and Merthyr lines.

By 2023
New trains improve standards on North Wales Coast, Cardiff to Manchester, Cambrian Line, Conwy Valley and Cheltenham services.
New Metro Vehicles on Treherbert, Aberdare and Merthyr lines providing 4 trains per hourand new station at Crwys Road opens.
New on-board Infotainment service launched

By 2024
The Cardiff Bay line is extended to the Flourish (Wales Millennium Centre) with a new station at Loudoun Square.
Sunday and evening services become more frequent across the network, with extra trains on Rhymney to Cardiff and Vale of Glamorgan lines.
Extra services begin on summer Sundays on the north Cambrian Line
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 9:31 am

It's important to remember here that's what being announced today is the new rail franchise for the Wales and the Borders - so these are all improvements and changes to the current rail service.

Other parts of the Metro plans, such as new bus and tram services, are seperate to today's announcement. Keolis Amey might well end up running those services as well but they would be subject to a seperate tendering process.
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 11:58 am

Does anyone know if the new Flourish station is going to be next to Merchant place? Or will the tracks cross the A4119 and go right into/next-to Roald Dahl Plass?
From the traffic shown Infront of the millennium center on the artist's impression, I'm guessing it will be next to Mrchant place.
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 12:13 pm

LocalResident wrote:Does anyone know if the new Flourish station is going to be next to Merchant place? Or will the tracks cross the A4119 and go right into/next-to Roald Dahl Plass?
From the traffic shown Infront of the millennium center on the artist's impression, I'm guessing it will be next to Mrchant place.

It looks like it will be alongside Merchant's Place, see photo below:
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 12:16 pm

From the Metro map it looks like you will still need to go via Cardiff Queen Street to get to the Flourish. It's not going to be connected to Cardiff Central. They really need the Bay and Central connected, especially if they want the new arena down there.
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 1:05 pm

In total I can see the following new stations on the map:

In Cardiff:

The Flourish
Loudon Square
Cardiff Parkway
Gabalfa
Crwys Road

In Newport:
Llanwern

In RCT:
Movement of the Trefforest station to Nantgarw
Miskin
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 1:33 pm

Kyle wrote:In total I can see the following new stations on the map:

In Cardiff:

The Flourish
Loudon Square
Cardiff Parkway
Gabalfa
Crwys Road

In Newport:
Llanwern

In RCT:
Movement of the Trefforest station to Nantgarw
Miskin


There's a new one in Aberystwyth too.

So this is completely seperate to the Metro? So we could see plenty of extra light rail in Cardiff?
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