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Re: Metro

PostThu Nov 02, 2017 11:45 am

Simon__200 wrote:
But they're not building them either at the moment. Whole project at the moment just feels like hot air. If they were serious about this, there'd be stuff happening in parallel as the OP stated.



http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... s-12954992
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Re: Metro

PostFri Nov 03, 2017 10:20 am

*Could* be opening. When? And that article doesnt even mention any of the proposed reopening of the valley stations for The Metro.

"The proposed new stations will now be subject to further scrutiny to see if they are viable". How would a station at Ely Mill or Victoria Park ever not be viable in a proper integrated transport policy anyway?

That article is from April. The Metro project has more stations in it than 3 in Cardiff anyway.
I remember reading about Metro plans to open a station in Creigiau. Another completely separate article about a station in Efail Isaf and one north of Beddau (both now not even mentioned on the current Metro plan). That was five years ago now, at least. Whole thing just seems just like all talk and no action.
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Re: Metro

PostFri Nov 03, 2017 1:29 pm

It is all talk and no action, all rather poor considering the congestion problems Cardiff currently has, never mind how it will be in a couple of years time.

I'll look forward to seeing the proposals and timescales from the winning bidder for the Wales & Borders/Metro franchise, if anyone actually wants it of course.
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Re: Metro

PostFri Nov 03, 2017 6:59 pm

Simon_SW17 wrote:It is all talk and no action, all rather poor considering the congestion problems Cardiff currently has, never mind how it will be in a couple of years time.

I'll look forward to seeing the proposals and timescales from the winning bidder for the Wales & Borders/Metro franchise, if anyone actually wants it of course.


Despite the rather predictable whinging here some of these projects are already going ahead. The new Bow Street station was approved in July after finances were made available from the UK and Welsh governments:

http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/article.cfm?id=115571&headline=New%20%C2%A37m%20train%20station%20for%20Bow%20Street%20gets%20the%20go%2Dahead&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2017

The new station at Llanwern was funded in the Welsh Government budget last month:

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/15576426.Plans_for_new_train_station_in_Llanwern_are_welcomed/

The new station at St Mellons also looks like it's going to happen, and doubtless more of these plans will get underway if Westminster, which is theoretically still supposed to be funding the entire rail network in Wales, coughs up some dosh.
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Re: Metro

PostSat Nov 04, 2017 1:30 am

I think that your labelling of comments on the Metro as predictable whinging are way off the mark. The fact is that several years after the plans were first mooted, nothing has happened.

A couple of stations do not make a new Metro. The WG have dragged their heels, admittedly not helped by the terrible Tory transport minister, but there could be a lot more progress without Grayling's assistance.

It's spades in the ground that actually matter and we're years off anything like that.
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Re: Metro

PostSat Nov 04, 2017 1:48 pm

The problem with opening any new stations is that they are subject to the glacial rate of decision making enjoyed by Network Rail and UK Treasury. You would hope that things will speed up with establishment of new Metro franchise....


I hope that in Cardiff some progress can be made on Victoria Park/Ely Mill, Newport Road/Rover Way, St Mellons, Wedal Road/Roath Park, Gabalfa, Crwys Road - all of which could be developed for relatively little cost with large potential passenger growth.

I would love to see a station at St Fagans if timetables permit.

We need some quick and easy successes before moving on to the bigger investments needed for lines to Creigiau and Cross City Trams.
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