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Re: Metro

PostWed May 23, 2018 7:48 am

Looks like it will be KeolisAmey:

Wales' trains to be run by European firms KeolisAmey - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44221184
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Re: Metro

PostWed May 23, 2018 8:22 am

LocalResident wrote:Looks like it will be KeolisAmey:

Wales' trains to be run by European firms KeolisAmey - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44221184
Finally some proper news! And hopefully we’ll see some plans next month!
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Re: Metro

PostWed May 23, 2018 11:58 pm

I like the quote in the BBC article that both bids were proposing considerably more than the WG had been hoping for. But the timing is a bit awkward, what with one of Keolis' other franchises getting into all heaps of trouble on Monday with trains being cancelled left, right and center! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44194146
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Re: Metro

PostTue May 29, 2018 4:51 pm

MTR have announced their not challenging the decision by WAG to award the contract to KeolisAmey. Hopefully the plans can be released rather sharpish now!

Apparently they've decided on tram trains for the valley lines with are also powered by battery to serve the Caerphilly tunnell and lines not initially electrified.
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Re: Metro

PostTue May 29, 2018 6:12 pm

Always suspicious of that. While presumably not weighing as much as internal conbustion engines (in the now botched_beyond_all_recognition mainline hybrid electification project), will not the extra weight of having to carry so many batteries not reduce the cost effectiveness that electrification was supposed to have introduced in the first place?
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Re: Metro

PostTue May 29, 2018 6:19 pm

Battery technology is coming on by leaps and bounds at the moment so we're likely to see them being used more and more over coming years - and not just for public transport.

South Australia is currently taking 50,000 units of social housing off-grid and using solar/battery to make them self-sufficient - something that would have been unthinkable until very recently.

Personally, I'd be very happy if using battery bi-modes meant getting rid of those bloody pacers sooner rather than later!
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Re: Metro

PostTue May 29, 2018 8:38 pm

Trams are usually pretty slow. How fast are these likely to go? Will there be any saving on journey time?
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Re: Metro

PostTue May 29, 2018 10:39 pm

Frank wrote:Trams are usually pretty slow. How fast are these likely to go? Will there be any saving on journey time?


For safety reasons trams are pretty slow when they are running on the street with mixed traffic. When they're on dedicated lines they can easily run as fast as ATW's Pacers. They also have much shorter stopping distances meaning a service like Merthyr > Cardiff could include additional stops without adding to the total journey time.

Having said that, the differentiation between train and trams and light and heavy rail is rapidly disappearing. If freight traffic is excluded from the core valleys network there's absoultely no reason to stick to heavy rail.
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Re: Metro

PostSun Jun 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Full details to be revealed tomorrow. The image below has been published on twitter, can we realistically believe we're going to get anything like this image suggests?
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Re: Metro

PostSun Jun 03, 2018 12:44 pm

If that's a GCI from Keolis/Amey then I'd imagine that's exactly what we're getting. V exciting!

Pleased to see that the rabbit has been dropped.
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