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Kyle

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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 3:11 pm

Lewisbeecham wrote:
Kyle wrote:In total I can see the following new stations on the map:

In Cardiff:

The Flourish
Loudon Square
Cardiff Parkway
Gabalfa
Crwys Road

In Newport:
Llanwern

In RCT:
Movement of the Trefforest station to Nantgarw
Miskin


There's a new one in Aberystwyth too.

So this is completely seperate to the Metro? So we could see plenty of extra light rail in Cardiff?


I haven't read enough yet, and have only bothered looking at the metro map rather than any non Cardiff Capital Region services (which is what the Metro is covering I guess).

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It's basically all the existing regional services as far west as the Bridgend area and as far east as the various towns in Gwent.

Longer term I'd really like Transport for Wales expand this so that we do get that line from Central to the Bay, more services to areas of Cardiff that have never had a train line running through them (like the newer suburbs). Outside of Cardiff surely Newport and the Gwent Valleys are a candidate for expansion. Ebbw Vale into Newport, a tram from Pontypool into Newport via Cwmbran, maybe the Caerphilly to Newport.

We could go on forever making up new stations, new lines etc. It really is a long term project beyond the 2024 date...but it all costs money and the lines have got to be viable. But look at how popular the Ebbw Vale line into Cardiff has been.

There's got to be a balance, and Cardiff has gained a few stations in this plan, which is good because other places in the area have had new stations over the last 20 years as well.
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Re: Metro

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 3:54 pm

Ebbw Vale to Newport is coming by May 2021.

Any substantial expansion of the network is probably going to require devolution of the rail infrastructure budget, as Westminster is unlikely to be interested in much beyond Crossrail 2 and HS2 for the forseeable future.
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PostMon Jun 04, 2018 7:54 pm

I think this is it until mid 2020s - got to sort out the existing system first before you add more.

Mark Barry updated his blog with his ideas post 2025

https://swalesmetroprof.blog/2018/06/04 ... yscardiff/
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PostWed Jun 20, 2018 9:25 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-44495836

This is something I have thought about too. Methods of hydrogen production have got to the point where they’re approaching almost as much power back in hydrogen as it takes to produce it. Wales has an abundance of water and let’s face it ‘wind’, especially overnight during the winter when storm after storm races in from the west. At times when wind generation meets low demand from the grid, this is an ideal time to create hydrogen and store it for either putting back into the grid at peak time or using in public transport infrastructure.

Whilst companies like Riversimple in Llandrindod Wells are developing the idea of a homegrown hydrogen car, I think it is highly optimistic that you’ll create a hydrogen network for road traffic, however it would be easier to supply to a small number of depots operating the metro and other transport services. Hydrogen fuel cells would not only do away with the need to electrify small rail branch lines but would give buses the smooth four wheel drive power delivery of an electric vehicle without the weight of batteries or an engine and fuel tank. Ideal for mountain roads!

If Wales could lead the way in innovating in this sector it would help us be more self-reliant and less dependant on other countries for gas and oil.
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PostWed Jun 20, 2018 12:26 pm

would rather the limited funds we have go on tried and tested technology rather than an experiment that costs, performance and timescales will spiral out of control on.
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PostFri Jun 22, 2018 4:37 pm

I was doing a bit of work in Newport earlier today and I noticed that the some of the overhead line posts used for the electrification of the mainline had also been erected on the line that goes up towards Cwmbran.
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Re: Metro

PostSat Jun 23, 2018 8:35 am

Should have gone to specsavers....
Build it and they will come.
Get it wrong and they will fall off.
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Re: Metro

PostSat Jun 23, 2018 9:09 am

Msmurf wrote:Should have gone to specsavers....


Sorry, was this a response to my post?
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PostSat Jun 23, 2018 9:39 am

I think Msmurf was joking that they might have electrified a section of the line to Cwmbran by mistake!

In fact, I've noticed in quite a few places along the GWR mainline that they've electrified short sections of other lines around junctions.

I've no idea why they do this. Maybe its something to do with being able to move trains off the main line or to make future electrification easier. IIRC there was some talk about electifying the borderlands line as far as Abergavenny.
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PostSat Jun 23, 2018 10:02 am

Ash wrote:I think Msmurf was joking that they might have electrified a section of the line to Cwmbran by mistake!

In fact, I've noticed in quite a few places along the GWR mainline that they've electrified short sections of other lines around junctions.

I've no idea why they do this. Maybe its something to do with being able to move trains off the main line or to make future electrification easier. IIRC there was some talk about electifying the borderlands line as far as Abergavenny.


Ah right. Sorry smurf. Yes I did wonder if it were to allow trains to move off the mainline, but they are bi mode trains so presumably that would be unnnecssay, which made me think, are they making a start on other lines?
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