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Ash

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Re: General Developments

PostThu Nov 19, 2020 10:21 pm

Really good to see social housing being proposed in the inner city. Social housing in vibrant mixed communities works so much better than large estates on the margins.

As for the current Fitzalan site, I wouldn't be so sure it will go for housing. Ysgol Treganna and Ysgol Pwll Coch combined have a six form entry between them so there may be a need for a Welsh Medium secondary school in the area. It would make sense to locate a WM secondary school on the Fitzalan site, sharing sport facilities with the English medium school.
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Re: General Developments

PostFri Nov 20, 2020 6:12 pm

Ash wrote:Really good to see social housing being proposed in the inner city. Social housing in vibrant mixed communities works so much better than large estates on the margins.

As for the current Fitzalan site, I wouldn't be so sure it will go for housing. Ysgol Treganna and Ysgol Pwll Coch combined have a six form entry between them so there may be a need for a Welsh Medium secondary school in the area. It would make sense to locate a WM secondary school on the Fitzalan site, sharing sport facilities with the English medium school.


I thought the council wanted to build a new Fitzalan School as the existing buildings were 'not fit for purpose' and need extensive repairs? If that is correct wouldn't being able to repair and improve the buildings to accommodate a new WM school negate the reason for the new buildings?

Would the requirement for a new WM secondary school be better served by placing it in a different area of the city? Otherwise 3 of 4 WM secondary schools would be with 3 miles of each other in the west of the city. Unless, of course, the demographics show the need to be there. Hopefully the council will come up with a solution as all 3 existing WM secondary schools are reported as being fully subscribed already!
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Re: General Developments

PostSat Nov 21, 2020 4:57 pm

No I don't think the current buildings could be refurbished but with continuity of EM education ensured by the new Fitzalan, the WM could be a new build on the old Fitzalan site.

The point about the location is correct but if you look at the locations of WM primary schools in Cardiff,the demand is overwhelmingly in the west and the north of the city. Interestingly, the reverse is true for Catholic schools.

Quite why that should be is a bit of a mystery since it doesn't seem to be anything to do with social class. It may be that when the city grew in Victorian times that people from the rest of Wales tended to settle in the West while people comong from England and Ireland settled in the East. Some of that may have carried through to the present day.

That's just a wild guess on my part!
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Re: General Developments

PostSun Nov 22, 2020 6:49 pm

Ash wrote:No I don't think the current buildings could be refurbished but with continuity of EM education ensured by the new Fitzalan, the WM could be a new build on the old Fitzalan site.

The point about the location is correct but if you look at the locations of WM primary schools in Cardiff, the demand is overwhelmingly in the west and the north of the city. Interestingly, the reverse is true for Catholic schools.

Quite why that should be is a bit of a mystery since it doesn't seem to be anything to do with social class. It may be that when the city grew in Victorian times that people from the rest of Wales tended to settle in the West while people comong from England and Ireland settled in the East. Some of that may have carried through to the present day.

That's just a wild guess on my part!

That is an interesting observation on why the WM schools are located where they are - TBH I never thought of that.

Somehow I think that a brand new WM secondary on the old Fitzalan site may be, unfortunately, wishful thinking with it more likely that housing will be built on that site. It will be interesting to see how the council will address the need for WM secondary education as, other than Fitzalan, the only new build secondary I've heard about is the proposed replacement of Willows High in Tremorfa.
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Re: General Developments

PostMon Nov 23, 2020 5:24 pm

Although I think this is in mostly in the Vale, it's close enough to Cardiff and close to the aforementioned developments in the Leckwith area for interest, 250 homes planned on the banks of the River Ely:

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https://penarthnews.wpcomstaging.com/20 ... velopment/

Plans for 154 homes to be built just off Penarth Road in Llandough as well:

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http://llandoughhill.co.uk/
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Re: General Developments

PostWed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 pm

"Principality Stadium to get skywalk and zip wire attraction as plans approved"

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/ ... w597HHxMLI
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