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Lewisbeecham

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Re: Cardiff airport

PostSat May 26, 2018 1:45 am

I flew Doha to Cardiff on May 8th with a load of 102. I've seen people quote figures over the past few from as low as 28 to as high as almost 200. The key thing about this route is passengers are not the priority. Cargo is first, business class second, passenger numbers third.
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostSat May 26, 2018 1:14 pm

passenger numbers not a priority on a passenger route you in la la land mate
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostSat May 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Sadly halfnhalf it’s you who are wrong. The big key to the success for this route is plenty of cargo. 85% of the worlds air cargo is carried in the hold of passenger flights. If the cargo is full and bussness is full the money from econermy class is all profit.
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostSat May 26, 2018 3:47 pm

I am in the middle on this....cargo is the moneyspinner but pax is what people see. Must do better...and probaly will once flights from DOH to DXB resume
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostSat May 26, 2018 6:12 pm

Qatar need to sort out their airspace issues in the gulf. And naturally it's a new route, and it's not a route to Spain, it needs time to mature. People aren't immediately thinking to look at Cardiff when booking trips the Middle East, Asia, Australia etc. Although the marketing has been great people are still learning about this route, and you don't exactly book to fly next week typically long haul. Cardiff for a few years has suffered with that reputation of being expensive and flying to nowhere. Neither are true if you have the right dates and the right destination. Qatar has some fantastic offers but some are being overlooked by the airports reputation. The culture of that is slowly turning around, but it's going to take time and marketing money.

The passenger numbers are not the most important factor for the airline, but it is the most important factor for the airport. The airline is after a healthy yield, which is achievable from the cargo and buisness class passengers. But the airport needs healthy passenger numbers to sell to future airlines and to possible investors.

The cargo is busy on these flights, the first flight I was on was at capacity with cargo. And as we were told, Qatar are in this for the long haul and plan on building a warehouse at the airport to manage the cargo. This route isn't going anywhere right now.

But at the end of the day, Qatar are a business who need to make money. If planes of low PAX are happening two years from now, it doesn't spell good for the routes existence. I'm pretty positive it will be successful in the long run.
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostThu Jun 14, 2018 11:31 am

The airport has now had 15 months on consequative growth. May 2018 was up 12% from 2017, that's an extra 18,000 passengers. The arrival of Qatar has clearly helped. For the year it's now surpassed 1.5m point and is likely to reach between 1.6 and 1.7m passengers for the 2018 calendar year.
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostThu Jul 05, 2018 7:28 pm

Thomas Cook Airlines has said that it will introduce Easter 2019 flights from Cardiff airport for the first time.

As per the plan, Thomas Cook Airlines has added over 15,000 seats to destinations including Turkey, Majorca, Tenerife, Lanzarote, Cyprus and a new route to Enfidha in Tunisia. The airlines will operate 11 flights a week starting from April 3, 2019 until the end of that month.

With the new routes, Thomas Cook Airlines now flies to 12 sun and beach destinations from Cardiff and has over 120,000 seats on sale throughout 2019 (Easter and Summer). Tickets are now on sale via www.thomascookairlines.com.


http://www.travel-news.co.uk/11085/2018/07/thomas-cook-airlines-announces-european-destinations-from-cardiff-airport-for-easter-2019/
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostThu Jul 05, 2018 8:48 pm

Add to that TUI are now selling holiday to the Far East from Cardiff using the Qatar flights. All good news for the airport
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostFri Jul 06, 2018 12:56 am

I flew out of CWL to DOH last Saturday. Economy was at less than 50% capacity, and business class only had a few people. It is a definite improvement over the KLM CLW/AMS route IMHO in terms of quality and convenience. I really do hope it manages to become economically sustainable.
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Re: Cardiff airport

PostFri Jul 06, 2018 6:55 am

Qatar numbers are lower than normal across their network I due to the blockades. They seem happy with Cardiff though with fights now on sale until July 2019.
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