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Re: Central Square

PostMon Jan 26, 2015 8:40 pm

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... hq-8517356

"BBC Cymru Wales new HQ moves a step closer following housing land deal for its existing home. BBC executives have struck a deal to sell its existing Llandaff headquarters to help finance its new proposed HQ in the centre of Cardiff"

"The deal is subject to the house builder securing planning consent for nearly 400 new homes from Cardiff council on a lucrative redevelopment site in one of the most prosperous suburbs of the capital." :shock:

That can't be for the BBC HQ site alone?

Out of interest and slightly OT, anyone know what Cardiff UHB's plans for Rookwood Hospital on an adjacent site are?
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Re: Central Square

PostMon Jan 26, 2015 9:16 pm

It was supposed to be housing but listed status is proving a troublesome so and so I believe.
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Re: Central Square

PostMon Jan 26, 2015 11:37 pm

LocalLurker wrote: "The deal is subject to the house builder securing planning consent for nearly 400 new homes from Cardiff council on a lucrative redevelopment site in one of the most prosperous suburbs of the capital." :shock:
That can't be for the BBC HQ site alone?


It's both BBC sites - the HQ and the one opposite. The Tŷ Oldfield site is bigger than it looks. 'Homes' include some flats as well as houses.
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Re: Central Square

PostMon Jan 26, 2015 11:40 pm

Rhodri wrote:It was supposed to be housing but listed status is proving a troublesome so and so I believe.


Nope. It should have been listed but the inspectors report was overturned by the Welsh Government. I wonder why.

http://www.c20society.org.uk/news/exemplary-modernist-welsh-bbc-hq-not-listed/

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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 9:01 am

Ash wrote:
Rhodri wrote:It was supposed to be housing but listed status is proving a troublesome so and so I believe.


Nope. It should have been listed but the inspectors report was overturned by the Welsh Government. I wonder why.

http://www.c20society.org.uk/news/exemplary-modernist-welsh-bbc-hq-not-listed/


That is a shame ash. I'm sure it could have been put to good use in its current (or slightly tweaked form)
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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 10:27 am

LocalLurker wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/bbc-cymru-wales-new-hq-8517356

Out of interest and slightly OT, anyone know what Cardiff UHB's plans for Rookwood Hospital on an adjacent site are?


Allocated for housing in the Cardiff LDP.
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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 4:15 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-30997185
As expected, the concerned citizens of Llandaf have found reasons to oppose development of a brownfield site.

Now I agree something that looks a bit different to your usual red-brick development should go here. Perhaps using a mix of pastel renders, and stone (or that reconstituted stone they use on some new builds). Keep some nice wide grass verges, or front gardens too, to keep the open feel of the place.

But, it looks like this objection is more fundamental than that. We'll see concerns about traffic (which will surely be less than the BBC generates), noise and disruption during construction, schools (which in this part of the city aren't subject to capacity issues AFAIK), about the extra homes changing the character of "Llandaf village" (which in reality has been a suburb of Cardiff for close to 100 years).

With each application for housing running into opposition immediately - and generally, not very constructive opposition - I hold increasingly to the view that people are motivated largely by selfishness rather than any principle about "sustainability" or "fairness". I see this also in my work on taxes and benefits - where each group objects to any hits to them, while pointing at others to hit. I'm (almost) too jaded to care.
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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 5:32 pm

Same old 'not in my back yard' attitudes will always be present. You rarely see people campaigning against residential developments in areas completely seperate to where they live. As long as it's somebody elses problem that's all that matters.

I guess everyone has a right to 'stand up' for their own area but when it consists of blindly trying to keep it exactly the same forever it does seem a bit unrealistic really.
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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 8:25 pm

The deal is subject to the house builder securing planning consent for nearly 400 new homes from Cardiff council on a lucrative redevelopment site in one of the most prosperous suburbs of the capital."


ITV Wales studios at Culverhouse Cross near Cardiff can be demolished to make way for 243 homes, councillors agreed.


The BBC always have to go one better that ITV, even extends to houses :lol:
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Re: Central Square

PostTue Jan 27, 2015 8:51 pm

MattW wrote:Same old 'not in my back yard' attitudes will always be present. You rarely see people campaigning against residential developments in areas completely seperate to where they live. As long as it's somebody elses problem that's all that matters.

I guess everyone has a right to 'stand up' for their own area but when it consists of blindly trying to keep it exactly the same forever it does seem a bit unrealistic really.


That's all true - but there was genuine arguement for preserving the BBC building on the grounds of future heritage. I can't believe that it couldn't be adapted for residential or hotel purposes with housing on the rest of the two sites.

I'm guessing the Welsh Government faced a dilemma having to balance the importance of heritage and maximising the chances of the whole of the Central Square development going ahead. On balance, Central Square is probably more important to the city but it's a pity both couldn't be achieved.
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