St. Edeyrn Housing Development

This development has a comical lack of imagination.

But its just loads and loads of little brick boxes with no imagination and no thought about day to day living and the quality of that living

All for new housing, but the plan lacks imagination. I would prefer something along the lines of the Inverness project.

This development has a comical lack of imagination.

Not unlike your recent posts on the subject

Its suburban housing. Its rare for developers to take 'risks' with design because domestic architecture, particularly in the UK, is the most conservative kind. They have templates for house designs and layouts that reflect what Joe Public seems to prefer, and what can be delivered relatively cheaply. You say it doesn't reflect "quality of living" - but how do you define that? Cul de sacs came about people people liked the fact they tended to be quiet, slowed cars down, and kids could play out side. But they have drawbacks - convoluted routes which discourage walking and encourage driving, and thus reduce provision of local shops and services. Its a trade off - and as people have started to realise drawback of cul-de-sacs, developers have responded by using more 'looping' roads that slow traffic down not by dead-ending, but by raised 'shared surfaces'. That seems to be a middle-ground that's developed.

I do think its right for planners to intervene if they think the schemes are flawed - e.g. poor transport, poor road layout, not enough open space, or designs that are really out of keeping with an area. But I don't think its appropriate for planners to mandate something "imaginative" or unusual. Because that might not sell as well, and ultimately, might not be what people want.

But its just loads and loads of little brick boxes with no imagination and no thought about day to day living and the quality of that living

All for new housing, but the plan lacks imagination. I would prefer something along the lines of the Inverness project.

This development has a comical lack of imagination.

Not unlike your recent posts on the subject

He does have a point though. I went through the DAS with a growing sense of ennui. Thankfully it appears to be more like the recent Radyr sidings development than Pontprennau, which at least means there is some legibility and in parts some density. Also the church and pub at least give it an historic focal point unlike Pontprennau etc.

But it's still cookie cutter housing that has barely changed since the 1980's. The only difference between this development and pretty much every other suburban development in Cardiff in modern times is how it's arranged. I don't think it's inevitable that suburban development have to be so conservative in design although commercially it may make sense for the developers who don't have to do anything other than create a masterplan.

All in all slightly disappointing (although not devastatingly so) but the extension of the Rumney River path/cycleway is at least a gain for the city.

Anyone have any news on St Edeyrn's, i.e. what kind of timescale that Persimmon will start selling houses?

A whole load of information has just landed in amongst the planning apps related to this scheme, amongst them is a phasing plan (picture to follow) which shows that Phase 1 of the Spine Road (off the Pentwyn Link Road/Heol Pontprennau Roundabout) will be completed by October 2015, then work on the first 99 houses will commence (due to be completed between October 2015 and December 2016).

In the middle of the scheme there is commercial land (no date stating when this will be constructed)

Phase 2 of the Link Road will then be constructed to allow houses plots 100 - 228 to be constructed between March 2016 and December 2017, before plots 229 to 323 which will be completed between March 2017 and December 2018.

Interesting as well that the masterplan does not shoe Bridge Road stopped up (the old rat run from Old St Mellons to the M4).

For Caerdydd. The post above from murfilicious is towards the bottom of page 3 of this thread, I thought it might help answer your question.

October 2015 to December 2016 are the dates the first batches of houses should be complete, but I guess that is based on phase 1 of the spine road being complete by October this year.

Judicial Review thrown out - the Judge calling it a complete misunderstanding of planning and the rule of law

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local ... il-8506642

common sense prevails. OSMAG refer to prime agricultural land but all I can see is from the article an overgrown meadow. OK I'm no expert of farming but it seems that these people aren't either. They just want their views protected. If they love farmland and the vistas afforded so much then I'd suggest that living in the city probably isn't the best idea they have had.

The land potentially is very fertile - given its location next to the river, and the occaisional flooding, largely in winter, which dumps additional nutrients on to the land. But given its fairly small, and is hemmed in by roads - it can't be used to its potential.

I feel sorry for the kid who's spent so much money on this - hope his fellow campaigners help him out generously. Its good to see the young care about community issues like this - and they are probably motivated a little less by the selfishness that is the driving force behind most people's opposition (the young are more idealistic). But the appeal was grasping at straws - and it is right it was thrown out.

Hopefully we can get some much needed family housing in Cardiff, in a location with easy access.

But its just loads and loads of little brick boxes with no imagination and no thought about day to day living and the quality of that living

All for new housing, but the plan lacks imagination. I would prefer something along the lines of the Inverness project.

This development has a comical lack of imagination.

Not unlike your recent posts on the subject

I just believe that we deserve better than what's being offered. I want to be constructive about this, yes more housing is needed, but good design, transport links, local amenities and connections to the wider areas must be part of any development and although I don't live close to this scheme, anything on this scale will affect the surrounding communities and beyond. So for those reasons and more, I'm against this project, favouring instead, a project similar to that in Inverness. Its not perfect, but with some imagination, it could be adapted.