Central Square

I may have misread in the past but I thought the civil service - if true - were looking for their own office without any other tenants.

Sorry, wasn't very clear. Yes they are.

What I meant was they haven't filled Number 1 yet and they are talking about Number 2 and this Interchange building (or buildings) where the civil service department are looking at, and the BBC office all being done within 5 years - which I think is the bulk of the office space in the project. That's a huge amount of space to go up in Cardiff over a 5 year period and if they manage it I'll be very very impressed.

Obviously it all depends on a few key decisions, which is why I think the next 6 months could be quite telling. The BBC sign off is due in the next few months by the bods in London. Deloitte are expanding and you'd think that would mean a new buiding. There's these civil service jobs and talk of PWC jobs (although there's competition with other cities for them from what we've read). That's potentially 5 fair size offices including Number 1 and that is without any other organisations such as L&G making relcoation decisions.

As much as I want the other schemes to do well as well it would be really good for the city if this whole project can be boosted with a bunch of pre-let decisions this year.

with all of this activity where does that leave Callaghan Square, Capital Quarter and Capital Waterside? Cardiff is not London, Birmingham or Manchester and just cannot sustain all of these office developments just yet (unless they have found oil in Glanmor's gap).

With the focus shifting to central square I can't see WG being too happy which doesn't bode well for Cardiff imho.

isn't the plans for Callaghan square led by the council moving? Also i doubt capital waterside will progress until there is the connection to the M4. Capital quarter is plowing ahead by the looks, i doubt we will see another office block going ahead soon but the rest may come to fruition in some form.

Mr Blue Sky

you clearly feel strongly about this and that is fair enough you are entitled to your views. However this forum has a very good cross section of society who just have one common interest - Cardiff and its development. Only you and Zach are against the demolition before a new station is committed. Everyone else can see the bigger picture.

Not only that we have anecdotal evidence of bus users who are saying that by and large the terminus of old is no longer used as it once was as most now depart at various points around the city centre. It is easy enough to depart a Cardiff West inbound bus on Westgate Street and catch buses to Cardiff North and East without having to go near central square. ditto inbound North and East on Castle Street.

Cardiff has a great opportunity to develop the Stalinist 1950s Tbilisi-esque ( ) bus station and put something there far more fitting of our standing, hopes and aspirations. I for one am fully supportive of the council for making this decision and Carl Sargeant for dismissing the Jeremiad of the naysayers and BANANAs at the civic society.

Central Square is an eyesore it really is. This should have happened years ago and it can't come soon enough

Regardless of the rights and wrongs here, the one thing we can pretty much dismiss is the idea that this forum has a pretty good cross section of society. Interesting that you then go on to use anecdotal evidence as if it's actual evidence, based on the false former assumption. Thst would a be shakey ("there's more of us, therefor you're wrong") argument even if the cross section argument were sound.

I don't know if it's because your view is unusually apparently shared by the majority of people in this forum, for once, but you seem to be committing all the schoolboy logical fallacies. For goodness sake, if you've got a point to make, argue it properly and let it stand in its logical merits.

Calls to ban members make me very sad. I have no sympathy at all for Plaid Cymru, I despise them quite frankly, but I know bullying when I see it, and there seems to be a pack instinct taking place here against a poster whose posts are really no more aggressive than many from others opposing his perfectly legitimate view. We have to discuss something, and it would be a pretty boring place here if it were pages and pages of "I concur".

I haven't called for anyone to be banned So I'm not sure why that comment was aimed at me. In fact, you will see I've advocated your position in that respect.

Regarding the rest of your post, it's not a logical fallacy as you, just like I, cannot prove or disprove it either way. All that can be said is that what we have in common, and other than what we have in common is probably quite diverse

I also think you've misunderstood who the aggressor is. Almost everyone is saying by all means disagree, but do so without the ad hominem attacks and threats.

Some news:

http://dailywales.net/2015/05/06/20-thi ... s-station/

Hope this isn't too threatening or aggressive for some of the delicate flowers on the forum.

The public exhibition space and passage through to Wood Street are vulnerable to persons carrying explosives.

Wow - well i guess the bus station will not need to be too big as most people are going to be staying well away from Cardiff.

Some news:

http://dailywales.net/2015/05/06/20-thi ... s-station/

Hope this isn't too threatening or aggressive for some of the delicate flowers on the forum.

Daily Wales correspondent...do they not have the minerals to put their name to the codswallop that they write. For that reason the article should be roundly condemned and ignored.

Some news:

http://dailywales.net/2015/05/06/20-thi ... s-station/

Hope this isn't too threatening or aggressive for some of the delicate flowers on the forum.

Daily Wales correspondent...do they not have the minerals to put their name to the codswallop that they write. For that reason the article should be roundly condemned and ignored.

What? Anonymous writers? Like you and everyone else on this forum and CCMB? You have just condemned everything you have ever written as being codswallop.

Daily Wales is a blog, not a newspaper. The right to anonymity is valuable when writers are up against state or corporate interests.

Thankfully, DW has made a huge difference to the composition of the online media in Wales, and has helped to shift the narrative away from the heavy bias towards London and English interests.