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Re: Central Square

PostFri May 01, 2015 11:50 pm

Having read through the recent posts on this thread, I can only surmise that Mr. Blue Sky is in fact Nigel Farage.
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 8:19 am

Simon_SW17 wrote:Having read through the recent posts on this thread, I can only surmise that Mr. Blue Sky is in fact Nigel Farage.


Nonsense. Nigel Farge doesn't have a degree in planning. He's an amateur at being offensive. ;)

Meanwhile the council has put up a Q+A on the bus station issue.

http://www.cardiffnewsroom.co.uk/index.php/archive/213-20-things-you-need-to-know-about-cardiff-s-new-bus-station-fact-v-fiction

It seems to answer many of the points raised. Whether you believe the spin or not is another matter of course.
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 11:12 am

Jantra wrote:Why do you take comfort in forward cardiff being a failure? It never really had an agenda, it was more a formal name for when forum members met and had a beer. Yes we did discuss development issues but by and large most appreciated we had lives to lead and being a lobby group was never going to happen as it took up far too much time (plus there was a lot of apathy from other forum members).

It doesn't matter, it was never an inner circle, there are plenty of posters from that time who never came along.

If I may be so bold as to say you often make valid points even if I do disagree with them but you do have a very confrontational style. There is no need for it.

My final point is your thinly veiled swipes at Cambo dai are pathetic. He is free to speak his mind and does so with reasoned analysis devoid of emotion or hyperbole. Your words indicate you would like to cite him in articles as if to discredit him or harm him in some way in the future. You write for daily Wales which is to be comended as you're getting out there but try and appreciate not everyone shares your view.

You're a plaid supporter - have you thought that you may put off floating voters with your style and thus do your cause more harm than good?


You are the most confrontational person on the internet in the Cardiff area. Witness the spats you've had on here and on CCMB - far too numerous to attempt counting. I guess that I've had a clear view of Cardiff Council, and how the Labour group operate, for so long that I'm very cynical about their motives.

When you are involved in politics it can be difficult to communicate a realistic image of what it is actual like to people who stand outside the sphere.

If the new bus station gets built - great. If it doesn't, then we can revisit this later.

I haven't caught a bus or train for years and have no intention of doing so, so I have no personal axe to grind.

There's a deeper political drama being played out over this whole BBC saga. Think about what Miliband has said over the past week, and understand that politics is as much about factions as it is about political parties.

And no, I am not Nigel Farage. I think that since Daily Wales launched that Plaid has become more popular, and Leanne has done well too. I doubt that I have put off many floating voters at all, only a few people on this board, maybe.

I don't share the blind faith of others that the council will replace the bus station but if they do then we can all celebrate.
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 11:30 am

Its not a blind faith. Its a balance of probabilities. And its about seeing past some of the myths that have been perpetuated via the media.
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 2:34 pm

Mr Blue Sky wrote: There's a deeper political drama being played out over this whole BBC saga.


This is a genuine question - not a continuation of the arguement!

What you refering to in the the above quote? Is the political drama the conflict between the Council and the Welsh Government? I know Edwina Hart was tamping that the BBC chose Central Square rather than Assembly Square for their new HQ and the WG and Cardiff Council seem to have a pretty rocky relationship.

Ironicaly it seems the WG found it easier to deal with the council when it was Lib Dem led rather then when one or other of the Labour factions are in charge!
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 3:37 pm

Ash wrote:
Mr Blue Sky wrote: There's a deeper political drama being played out over this whole BBC saga.


This is a genuine question - not a continuation of the arguement!

What you refering to in the the above quote? Is the political drama the conflict between the Council and the Welsh Government? I know Edwina Hart was tamping that the BBC chose Central Square rather than Assembly Square for their new HQ and the WG and Cardiff Council seem to have a pretty rocky relationship.

Ironicaly it seems the WG found it easier to deal with the council when it was Lib Dem led rather then when one or other of the Labour factions are in charge!


Well, it is in a prominent position - the first building that people will see when they exit Cardiff central for the city centre. Remember that Miliband had said "no coalitions with nationalists".

That's all I'm saying for the time being.

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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 5:43 pm

Mr Blue Sky wrote:
Ash wrote:
Mr Blue Sky wrote: There's a deeper political drama being played out over this whole BBC saga.


This is a genuine question - not a continuation of the arguement!

What you refering to in the the above quote? Is the political drama the conflict between the Council and the Welsh Government? I know Edwina Hart was tamping that the BBC chose Central Square rather than Assembly Square for their new HQ and the WG and Cardiff Council seem to have a pretty rocky relationship.

Ironicaly it seems the WG found it easier to deal with the council when it was Lib Dem led rather then when one or other of the Labour factions are in charge!


Well, it is in a prominent position - the first building that people will see when they exit Cardiff central for the city centre. Remember that Miliband had said "no coalitions with nationalists".

That's all I'm saying for the time being.


What is that supposed to mean?
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 6:15 pm

Jantra wrote:
What is that supposed to mean?


You're a clever guy. Just look at the bigger picture. Why was this location chosen for the BBC? What is the BBC?

Remember a few years ago there was a campaign to have a statue of Owain Glyndwr in Cardiff?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... in-2019488

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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 8:06 pm

Not everything is a conspiracy
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Re: Central Square

PostSat May 02, 2015 8:18 pm

Is it being suggested that the choice was either BBC Wales HQ or a statue of Glyndwr?
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